Monday, 15 June 2009

To gloat or not to gloat

...that is the question.

Oh what the hell, I'll gloat.

India are out of the Twenty Twenty world cup.

FYI, I don't like T20 and don't consider it an important part of cricket (give me tests and odis any day!) But given that India were the champions last time and made a big deal of it and pretended they were the best in all forms, I thought it'd be fun to gloat.

Ha ha!! (think Nelson from the Simpsons)

Not many Aussies will be happy though with the English doing well, but at the moment, I don't care.

The Ashes are a different ball game. Literally.

Until next time,

Cheers!!!

P.S. I know Aus were out earlier but no one here gives a damn about T20. If it were the ODI world cup, it'd be a different story.

14 penned views:

  1. given that India were the champions last time and made a big deal of it and pretended they were the best in all forms, I thought it'd be fun to gloat.


    they were the champions so they felt happy. how did they pretend that they were the best in all forms of the game? In fact, how do you pretend victory in cricket?

    that's like saying that Australia pretended to be unbeatable (when they were, in fact, unbeatable)

    australia is your favourite team. but you got to hand it to other teams when they do well.
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  2. @ Smita: Thanks for taking it well :)

    @ Kartikey: I manage to appreciate every team when they play well and even if they sometimes beat Aus (like Eng in the past)...except India. Always have. With that statement of mine, by the way,I meant that just because they won the T20 last time around, they strutted around and talked big about being champs in all forms of the game...when we know that's not true.
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  3. I meant that just because they won the T20 last time around, they strutted around and talked big about being champs in all forms of the game...when we know that's not true.

    which player strutted around and who talked big? i don't remember any pomposity from any player.


    and neither am i a 'die-hard' fan of Indian cricketers but the record shows that india and south africa have actually been at the top of the game... in all formats. so even the proclamation as champions is not off the mark.

    what i don't get is how you can keep australia out of the 'gloat-vision'.
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  4. me loves the aussies...:-)
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  5. @ Kartikey: umm...Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sreesanth just to name a few. And the way I keep Aus out of my 'gloat-vision' is because I like them! Gloating is when you view someone smugly or feel a sense of satisfaction at someone else's failure. If I love the Aussies, why would I gloat when they fail???

    @ Ersa: Yay! Another similarity! :)
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  6. thought you'd keep aussies in your 'gloat-vision' (despite liking them) because of their attitude towards the sport

    and since you have claimed passion for cricket (not just australian i thought)

    @ Kartikey: umm...Dhoni, Harbhajan, Sreesanth just to name a few

    the controversies and fights apart, how did these people make a big deal out of being champions or, as you said, pretend to be the best?

    gloating is fun, personal and etc
    but without any basis it is called bias and it has little to do with cricketing excellence

    (trust you don't want me to forgo reasoning and objectivity while reading your cricket posts)
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  7. I have linked this post to Blogbharti.

    Here is the link
    http://www.blogbharti.com/cuckoo/india/aftereffect-of-twenty20-world-cup/

    P.S.- Once again a request. You need to enable Name/url thing and give full feed in order to let your readers come here more frequently. :-)

    Check your settings in blogger or take somebody's help who's using blogspot. :-)

    Below is my current url, not the above one.
    Cuckoo
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  8. @ Kartikey: Gloating is a subjective act. You can't be objective and gloat. I can comment when I think the Aussies have stuffed up or played like idiots but I won't be gloating because gloating is usually when you don't like someone. Soi yea, gloating is biased. Commenting on the game is objective.

    @ Cuckoo: I've tried some change with regards to the comments. I hope it's what you're talking about. And thanks for the blog bharti add. I guess though I need to prepare for some comments now about how unpatriotic I am. Then again, I've heard that since I was 12 and hav always supported the Aussies. :)
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  9. Psych,
    gloating is not lying, by any definition.
    if you feel satisfaction over something that never happened, then it could be malice or something else.

    i don't like india's batting techniques but i can't gloat over their failure because they never claimed to be the best.
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  10. Kartikey: According to the Macquarie dictionary which I have in hand, to gloat is to 1. to gaze with exultation; dwell mentally upon something with intense (and often evil) satisfaction. 2. to smile smugly or scornfully; to display complacency.

    Based on this, I am gloating because I enjoy watching India fail. It is an opinion and it is my opinion. It is my bias. Period. I don't like the Indian cricket team at all and have never made a secret of it. I am feeling satisfaction over India's loss and I don't think that's a lie. It did happen! It's an added bonus because of Dhoni's and Harbhajan's arrogance.

    Also, I'd like to end this discussion here because I'm tired of having to justify my stance and don't really think I should have to.
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  11. To Psych,

    Subject: What was that about? or it is easy to get miffed or that last line of yours...undeserving or ignorance is a form of attack, unless the other person knows its merit (philosophy, really)

    Matter: Never mind. i chucked it. maybe i'll use it on my site. but if you are open to it (and not tired), could send it to you. it may spoil the reader-writer relationship we have (pleasant, thus far) but, of course, i stand by it.
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  12. The reason I would like to end the discussion is because after working during the day with clients suffering from trauma, being abused, having clinical depression, suicidal I do feel drained. And I believe that this is a trivial argument that doesn't even need to be taking place. If I want to gloat about something trivial, I don't see any harm. But I am not in the mood to argue over it and spend my evenings typing out responses and justifying my stance. I also think that we don't really know the basis of the argument. Are we disagreeing on the term 'gloat'? Are we disagreeing because you took offence to me calling the Indians arrogant? (Btw, I always have called them that!) Are we disagreeing because I like the Aussies? I don't know. And to be frank, I don't really care.
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  13. neither should i then.
    you are a sexist.
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